Vodka Redbull is a pound, I got a standing ovation for my version of ‘My Way’ once.”Soon we’re passing the scene of the 2011 Stokes Croft riot – a night of violence that followed a police raid on a squat housing opponents to the opening of a new Tesco Express. Joe says he’s already bracing himself for fewer positive reviews “because it’s not as cool, but it’s more honest.

It’s an album that rejects a stiff upper lip attitude; an album that says weep if you need to weep, laugh when you want to laugh. Every day for five years.”Go back almost a decade and that flat acted as a kind of preschool for IDLES. “It’s what Bristol culture is all about,” Joe smiles. "We lack that a lot in the UK. Originally, the two university pals, Dev and Joe, would set up a drum machine and a bass guitar amp.

“I laughed,” says Lee, although clearly not in a harsh way, but in reaction to the astonishing rawness of it. “I’ve been in counselling recently and I realised that from the age of 16 to 32 I felt very lonely but surrounded by very lovely human beings. It’s not healthy.
The government should be supporting these venues a lot more. It could be the situation that this is how live performances will go for the next number of years until a vaccine… and even then, what if there's other versions of the virus, or new viruses that come along? Then they had a realisation, embraced their abrasive intuition, stopped imitating the bands they liked and channeled their own frustrations. Idles’ Mark Bowen: ‘Amazing music venues have been shafted by the government’ – Corby Radio Chaos, energy, a sweaty murmuration of bodies in the crowd - and a guitarist who's been known to strip down to his pants and immerse himself in the thick of it. Oops….

We stop in a cafe close to Fatty and Gareth’s studios, the final place IDLES would rehearse in this area alongside bands like All this stuff goes back a while, as things have been a slow-burn for IDLES. They released their ‘Welcome’ EP in 2012, which sounds very little like they do now – it sounds kind of like The National. We’ll come round your house and break your legs. Within the first minutes of the interview Joe spoke about how at the age of 16 his mother had suffered a stroke. I shouldn’t have gone on that tour, because something much worse could have happened.

“Our fans, I think they feel like they own us as a band, which is exactly what we want,” he says.

It’s not a burden. A lot of people miscarry without talking about it, and it’s shit.

IDLES' debut was sculpted alongside Talbot's mother's declining health, and the music within Brutalism is a kind of proactive preparation for grief that let him rage against malevolent forces and exorcise emotions from his body.

They have no qualms in terrifying and entertaining in the same breath. “It’d be baking in there on a day like this,” says Bowen. "We are left leaning, very left leaning comparatively to what’s about now.

Today Joe and Bowen, sat in a cafe, recall it with a grin.
There are places like that that are real kind bastions of that independent community spirit and they're getting shafted, if I can use the word shafted, by the government. It’s a really dangerous thing to feel like you’re a burden if you share your emotions. "I'm not gonna say we're not going to do socially distanced gigs," Mark Bowen, the said pants-showing guitarist, begins in a Zoom call to Sky News. We did a few of our own songs but, they were – I don’t know how to describe them – kind of like, 'Oh look, this band have just discovered The Strokes'; that kind of thing.”Bowen moved to Bristol for university and met Talbot on the DJ scene.“Me and Joe share a mutual friend who is a promoter and he was putting on a night at a venue Joe worked in,” he recalled.Talbot: “Yeah, it was the opening night and Mr Oizo was playing. Joe’s partner arrives having finished work for the day at the local hospital where she’s a nurse and he puts a tender arm around her shoulders before everyone goes their separate ways.“What we didn’t want to do is be a happy-go-lucky band that doesn’t have any content,” he says before he leaves. I went on tour, me and my partner had spoken about it, and we thought it would be alright – but then I turned to alcohol and drugs. This band is a selfish act as well as a selfless act.

“That came as a real fucking barrage of pain,” Joe begins, when he brings up the subject. But then Idles – that’s Talbot as well as guitarists Mark Bowen and Lee Kiernan, bassist Adam Devonshire and drummer Jon Beavis – are nothing if not about contradictory. Anyone who has who has ever seen the band live will know the idea of socially distancing their shows will have thrown up bigger problems for them than for contemporaries who rely on a less frantic kind of show.

"I'm not gonna say we're not going to do socially distanced gigs," Mark Bowen, the said pants-showing guitarist, begins in a Zoom call to Sky … Mixed with his bitterness, sadness, confusion, resentment and grief – a lot of it silently internalised – life understandably took him off the rails for much of his twenties. She didn’t recognise me, she lost her speech, she was paralysed down the right side. He was a “very fat kid” (which he loved) and went to school locally (which he also loved) and described himself as “romantic and optimistic”. But at the studios, they can push the boundaries of how the set sounds. Music was there – but we just got on and made each other laugh. As heartbreaking as that event was, that night’s conversation unveiled into something that was unapologetically honest, startlingly confessional and ultimately ­– as unlikely as it sounds – joyous.


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